, I believe that you've had survey on this and most of brain users agree with you so that's why you've implemented.
What survey? Leaving that aside, there are several confusing inconsistencies in the current arrangement. I don't recall ever having seen a survey or poll advertised; Searching the forum on " delete poll" produced nothing; The only It's in the next release... that was relevant asked for UserVoice thread on Delete quite the opposite, to which Harlan replied "Completed. ". Unfortunately, nothing in UserVoice has a date on it, so I don't know to which version " next release" referred. In v5.0 and earlier, pressing Delete forgot the active Thought, whereas pressing Shift+Del deleted it, after asking for confirmation. Simple and easy. In 22.214.171.124 Release Notes, Harlan stated:
o The Delete key now serves several functions
- If forgetting is enabled, it forgets the highlighted thought.
- If forgetting is disabled or the Shift key is pressed, it deletes the highlighted thought.
- If a link is highlighted, removes the link
Fixed: Forgetting of the active Thought via the [Delete] key should not be allowed
Why was this a "bug" that needed to be fixed? That was normal behaviour in 5.0 and earlier versions. In v126.96.36.199 Beta: 1) The Delete key doesn't work at all for me on Windows XP - neither to Forget nor Delete, no matter what the status of the " Forget Thoughts before deleting" checkbox happens to be. 2) There are (KBAs) for Forget/Delete, named: 3 keyboard accelerators 3) Thought > delete Thought > forget Forget/Delete highlighted thought or link Delete is the default KBA for Forget/Delete highlighted thought or link, and cannot be changed (so why bother including it in this list anyway?). Not only can't it be changed, it doesn't work, as mentioned above. 4) KBAs can be set for Thought > delete and Thought > forget, but if " Forget Thoughts before deleting" is checked, the former KBA doesn't work at all, and if " Forget Thoughts before deleting" is unchecked, the latter won't! This has become hopelessly muddled. What's more, I use Forgetting for much more than to prevent accidental deletion. It's still the only permanent way I have to shield Thoughts from being displayed in the Plex, until I turn Show Forgotten Thoughts on. Reports inverse filtering doesn't come close in usefulness and, furthermore, ties up Reports so it can't be used for anything else. Now that you've imposed this on us, I can't have two concurrent keyboard commands, one for Forget and the other for Delete; once again you've forced me back to using the mouse for one or the other, depending on the state of the " Forget Thoughts before deleting" checkbox. Harlan said in reply to the new Delete option, above:
imagine this: you're typing something into search and decide to make a change - you hit the
key one too many times and suddenly the active thought disappears. this is why this has been changed.
I can't imagine this at all, since it's impossible. The confirmation key for Delete is (or should be) Enter, not Delete pressed a second time. (I have to say, I never tried pressing Delete a second time to do this; if it ever did, this would have been a bug.) Anyway, if Delete meant Forget, as it used to, one would have expected the Active Thought to disappear as soon as PB forgot it! The only worry would be if Shift+Delete acted without confirmation, but even then you could recover the Thought by using Undo if it was early enough, then immediately report it as an issue. So, are we talking about the same or different things here? No one up till now has mentioned confirmation, or the option to disable confirmation when deleting, in this thread. Deleting without confirmation sounds risky, but if you suddenly wanted to delete 20 Thoughts, you'd get mighty tired of having to press Enter before each delete. If you accidentally deleted instead of forgot the Thought, you could use Undo. If the option to delete without confirmation is provided, AND one is intelligent enough to apply it temporarily, one should also be intelligent enough to remember to turn it off afterwards. We need more, not fewer options here, and we need them designed sensibly, not just reduced simply because someone decides what's good for us. How to resolve this situation? Simple. 1) Get rid of the Forget Thoughts before deleting checkbox. THIS is not only dangerous, it disables keyboard deleting if checked. 2) Replace it with a Confirm before deleting Thoughts checkbox, set by default to ON. Most users will leave it that way, I think. 3) Delete and Shift+Delete should continue to Forget and Delete, respectively (with confirmation before Delete set as default). 4) Get rid of the Forget/Delete highlighted thought or link KBA. 5) Continue to offer separate KBAs for Forget and Delete, but allow either to be used without having to dive deep into Preferences to switch
Forget Thoughts before deleting before the other can be employed! The only thing wrong with using the default Delete key to delete is that it's too far away from the Enter key to permit confirmation without moving the right hand, so a closer Delete KBA such as Ctrl+zero would make it easier.
PB 188.8.131.52 on Windows XP, J-1.6.0_17