jostber
The space key shortcut for Expand/Collapse thought does not seem to work. It just moves the marker in the search field instead. Could it be possible to change this to something like Ctrl-Space, or make it configurable?



TheBrain 8.0.2.0 Slackware 14.1 KDE 4.10.3 Java 1.7.0_25 / (Windows 7)

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Harlan

That is meant for Outline view only. Expanded view is more complex and so cannot use a single key. There is no keyboard option for expand/collapse in expanded view presently.

Regards,
-Harlan
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jostber
Thanks for the answer, but I get the same result in the Outline View. Space key just moves the marker in the search field.


TheBrain 8.0.2.0 Slackware 14.1 KDE 4.10.3 Java 1.7.0_25 / (Windows 7)

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Dryopithecus
Same here, PB 5501 on Vista.
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jostber
Thanks. It would be great if there were a possibility to set keyboard shortcuts for all the options in Preferences too, like "Hide Tag Hints". Anyway the accelerator is a great new functionality!



TheBrain 8.0.2.0 Slackware 14.1 KDE 4.10.3 Java 1.7.0_25 / (Windows 7)

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jostber
Has anyone got this to work in PB 5.5.0.2?



TheBrain 8.0.2.0 Slackware 14.1 KDE 4.10.3 Java 1.7.0_25 / (Windows 7)

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Dryopithecus
Using 5502, Outline view:

* Mouse over a thought, pressing the space key simply inserts a space character into the search box.

* Use keyboard arrows to highlight a thought, pressing space key can expand/collapse the highlighted thought, but a space character still got sent to the search box.

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jostber
Still does not get the space key to work the intended way here. Anyone does?



TheBrain 8.0.2.0 Slackware 14.1 KDE 4.10.3 Java 1.7.0_25 / (Windows 7)

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Moe
Testing this feature in 5.5.1.4-b on Vista and XP, you can use they keyboard to select a Thought which contains Children in Outline view then use the space bar to expand/collapse the Thought to see its Children. Make sure the Thought you are trying to expand/collapse is not the Active Thought. The Active Thought can not be expanded/collapsed in this way. jostber, testing this feature in Linux, it looks like there is an issue which prohibits this expand/collapse from working all together. I have noted this for TheBrain engineers to look into.

Added:
It looks like this feature is not working correctly in 5.5.1.4-b in OS X as well.

Thanks,
Moe


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Dryopithecus
Moe wrote: Testing this feature in 5.5.1.4-b on Vista and XP, you can use they keyboard to select a Thought which contains Children in Outline view then use the space bar to expand/collapse the Thought to see its Children. Make sure the Thought you are trying to expand/collapse is not the Active Thought. The Active Thought can not be expanded/collapsed in this way.
But there is a side effect: Space characters are sent to the search box when use space bar to expand/collapse thoughts.
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jostber
Ctrl-Right to expand and Ctrl-Left to collapse would be cool.



TheBrain 8.0.2.0 Slackware 14.1 KDE 4.10.3 Java 1.7.0_25 / (Windows 7)

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dyslucksia
PB 5.5.1.4
Just tried it out. The space bar is certainly convenient to reach and in practice, adding a space to the Search Edit Box is not a hardship, since spaces are ignored in Instant Search. It's only the look of it, that there are spaces between the LH end of the field and any added text.

If you fill the Search Edit Box with spaces so that the text cursor is to the far right of the field, adding any further text will keep the cursor at the right hand end and the added text expands leftwards.

This feature works only with keyboard navigation, which is a bit unusual for PB! In other words, if you move the mouse cursor over a Thought (capable of expansion) in Outline View and press the spacebar with the non-mouse hand, nothing happens. (I hope they make that clear in the User Guide when they get round to updating it.) It only works if you select the Thought by keyboard navigation (move the green ring onto it), then press the spacebar.

But I agree, I can see no reason why we can't use some other accelerator instead of the spacebar here. Maybe a UserVoice request would assist them to reconsider this aspect.

Another amusing thing about this feature is that it is also activated by typing spaces within search terms. E.g., if you type "three blind mice" and the green ring happens to be over an expandable Thought, Outline View expands and collapses the Thought before your eyes, as you type into the Search Edit Box! This would not impress customers during a presentation.
PB 5.5.2.1 on Windows XP, J-1.6.0_17
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