BobBlum
This is one of those seemingly little details, but it's standing in the way of my moving from Brain8 to Brain9...  and I'm not just a casual user.  (I've used TheBrain for over a decade and it gets its own monitor on my desktop to display its 20,000 thoughts.)

Web Client seems to be the new term for what used to be called the WebBrain.  That's what your user community (of casual READERS) sees when they Google into your uploaded Personal Brain.  

Here's my issue.   As it stands now,  the uploaded brain in the new Web Client (for Brain9) defaults to displaying the PLEX vertically to the left  (that is, side by side) with the NOTE displayed vertically to the right.

That SQUEEZES the PLEX and limits the number of PINS at the top.

Rather,  on my home desktop, the PLEX (displayed ABOVE)  horizontally with the NOTE below has twice the room to spread out.  Confused?

Here's a sample of each.

Brain 8 in "horizontal mode"  plex above the note:

https://webbrain.com/brainpage/brain/34BD79C0-881A-1BDC-C715-86927849D505#-15504

Brain 9 in "vertical mode"  plex to the left of the note:

https://app.thebrain.com/brains/34bd79c0-881a-1bdc-c715-86927849d505/thoughts/0b8bc84a-5cc1-5575-a31c-34118fc4607e/notes

(also note the difference in speed of display of the plex... another issue.)

This is a problem if there are a lot of PINS or if the displayed tree is really bushy.

Here's my request:  allow the user  (that is... me;  as opposed to my web readers)  the option to set the DEFAULT to be either horizontal (Plex on top) or vertical (Plex to the left) for the Web Client.

You and I know that you can toggle between these settings by clicking the tiny icons at the bottom of the border between the plex and the note field.  But casual, first-time readers struggle to find those or even to know that those are there.   (Those  icons need some kind of attention-grabbing flags to alert casual readers to their presence (perhaps... hover-over enlargement.)

Thank you for your diligence.  (I've previously discussed this with Sean at HQ several months ago.)

Bob Blum
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metta
A related issue is the disappearance of the "More Pins" button in TB9.
==> Are there plans to restore this button any time in the near future?

FWIW, I too am waiting to migrate into TB9 for public/shared brain projects in large part due to missing or broken features in the web client (e.g., the "Back" button in the Chrome browser does not currently work beyond 1 step, and the "Forward" button doesn't work at all).
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BobBlum
Thanks, Metta.  I "second" your suggestions.  Our casual, first-time readers/ first-time Brain users especially need the features you mentioned.   Bob
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metta
Thanks, Bob. I appreciate your support for making TB9 web client as user-friendly and easy to navigate as possible, especially for individuals who are new to TheBrain.
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mcaton
Thanks for posting original issues mentioned by Bob and the "more pins" request have been documented.

Thank you,
Matt
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metta
Thanks for confirming, Matt. Appreciate your help with this follow-up and documentation.

Also, where do things stand with back/forward navigation in Chrome?
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metta
Bob, are you also having any problems with the pins in the web client not displaying in the correct order?

Just now discovered in one of my test brains that the pins do NOT match my desktop -- and the order is jumbled in 2 different ways, depending upon whether I'm logged in or out.
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BobBlum
Hi Metta,

Yes.  Some inexplicability in the selection and order of displayed PINS.  Brain8 => WebBrain(8)  does preserve the order of PINS on my desktop but the web version seems to randomly remove some of the thought types of the PINS.

In the Brain9 to Web Client upload, the order of the PINS and selection of PINS is permuted especially in VERTICAL mode.  (logging in or not doesn't seem to change these for me, but I believe your experience.)

Since the guys need to prioritize what to work on,  these problems would be lower on my prioritized list than the problems we discussed above -  which are (hopefully, temporary) deal-breakers for switching from  Brain8 to Brain9.  Ever hopeful.
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metta
Thanks for confirming, Bob. It always helps to know what others' experiences have been.

I also realize that with a long list of to-do items and fixes, TheBrain team's priorities are likely to be different than my own, so I'm watching and waiting to see what changes have been made in each new release.

😉
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metta
@BobBlum ~

Thought you might be interested in the question I raised here about the vertical/horizontal display in TB9, in case the answer might apply to your use of the TB9 web client.
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metta
@BobBlum ~

Just now discovered a site with an embedded v9 brain where the notes display below the plex, but I have no idea how the brain owners were able to achieve this effect by default:
https://www.theclimateweb.com/seed-brains <== Scroll down to see the embedded brain

I even asked Mark (one of the brain owners) about this, and he wasn't sure why the display changed, either.

Can anyone from TB team explain?
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mctrexler
More on Metta's note above.  We have a Brain displaying vertically on one page, and horizontally on the next (Metta's seed brains link).  We just copied the entire embed code from the first page (side by side), and put it into the second page, and it is now above and below.  So the identical embed code showing up differently on two separate web pages (everything about the two web pages is basically identical in terms of wordpress etc).  

Puzzling.  Unlike Bob, we want the side by side in this case! :-)  
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metta
My apologies for speaking in haste.

After giving this just a little bit more thought, Mark, I quickly realized the mistake was mine:
> On the "seed" page, the display frame of TB9 is actually vertical.
-- This means the display of the notes below the plex is to be expected as the default orientation for the web client brain.
-- If the display on the second page you mentioned is also vertical (as you indicated), this would explain the note placement below the plex on that page, as well.

The only I way I know how to change this default display is to reduce the height on your brain iFrame until it is shorter than the width of the frame. This should give you, Mark, the display you prefer, with the notes beside the plex.

Unfortunately, though, this solution does not address or resolve Bob's original question.
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mctrexler

Sean responded that: "The difference is the size of the frame those 2 are displayed in. There is a small difference in the width of both frames, and that difference is just enough to swap the orientation. Taller gets the horizontal splitter, and wider frames get the vertical splitter."

That didn't make sense at first, since the iframes are identical.  But then realized that the iframe includes a "100% width" code, and sure enough - the margins of the two pages are slightly different, so the iframe was slightly different in size, changing the orientation.  

So we can fix it, but doesn't this suggest a solution to @bobblum's original question.  Won't a precisely correctly sized iframe deliver the desired orientation of the TB9 plex?  

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metta
Thanks for confirming, Mark. Good to know what was causing the problem.

As for Bob's question, I think his goal was to control the orientation (and the notes placement) in the web client itself, not in an embedded frame.

However, using the iFrame certainly would be an effective work-around for controlling the position of the notes.
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