danny
I've only been using PB Pro a couple of weeks and already my Brain is getting kinda large.
How are others using their brain. One brain for everything, thats what I'm doing - I've got one brain so it seemed logical and nearer the real world; or many separate brains, maybe one for work, one for diving etc. There would be issues with many brains, data duplication and cross referencing spring to mind.
This leads to a couple of questions:
1) Is there a practical size limit on a brain?
2)How do I 'Lobotomize' my brain?
Cheers
Dan

Click image for larger version - Name: BrainStats.jpg, Views: 2376, Size: 34.20 KB
Quote
Spacenexus
Danny

You're on the right lines. Check out these posts:

You'll find brain size is unlimited:
http://forums.thebrain.com/tool/post/thebrain/vpost?id=1897420

Some tips on managing your brain:
http://forums.thebrain.com/tool/post/thebrain/vpost?id=2045211

On creating new brains:
http://forums.thebrain.com/tool/post/thebrain/vpost?id=2117043

If you're short of time, here's the (personal recommendation) summary: One Brain

Hope that helps

cheers

Jim
@200229:
TB8022 32bit
Java 32bit Version 8 Update 141

Testing 11.0.60.0

Firefox, Office 2013 Pro Plus 32bit
64bit Win10Pro
64bit Primary Laptop, 8GB RAM, Intel Core i7
64bit Secondary Laptop, 64GB RAM, Intel Xeon E3
Brain user since 1997
Quote
danny
Thanks Jim, that's a big help. Looking at the thread it does seem that size is only limited by disk space.
One brain does seem to be a lot more intuative. I was just a bit  conscerned because it seemed to be growing a a fair rate as I was moving stuff into the brain space.
Quote
mcaton
There have always been 2 schools of thought here and there are certainly advantages to both.

Having one large Brain file makes it very easy to see all the connections between events, people and projects in your life.  It also makes it very easy to back up or share your brain file - especially with the new BrainZip and Publishing features.

Having multiple smaller brain files keep the information in each individual Brain more condensed.  Brain Buttons make it easy to toggle between each of your Brains.  We're also working on a merge feature that will allow you to merge 4.0 Brain files together.

I personally still keep about 6 main Brains for different topics.  They are:

Personal Info (Family, Friend and Hobby info)

PersonalBrain (Company Product 1)

BrainEKP (Company Product 2)

An Internal Network Map

Testing Brain (My Sandbox)

Training Demo (Sandbox 2)

 

-Matt

Quote
danny
Hi Matt,
I can see what you mean, still inclined to the monolithic brain personally. There will be people who you work with who are friends too (at least I hope so ) it's these cross over areas that could cause problems I feel. Having said that I would have the network map as a separate brain too, as well as any sandbox or training brains (but they don't really count)
Cheers
Dan

Quote
newguy
Is it possible to build a link in one brain that will open another?  Okay, that's a bit confusing with the terminology crossover -- I don't mean a 'link' so much as a thought, I guess.  Kind of a window (or super-thought?) into the next brain?  (I know this is somewhat redundant given the Brain Buttons, but it might be a more intuitive way to move from one brain to the next, making multiple brains a possibility, but giving the effect of a single brain...)

Quote
Spacenexus
Matt, thanks for those examples of multiple main brains. Although I go on about single main brains, i myself have a few self contained brains as templates and for distinct info sets along the way. Just down to differing valid requirements.

I like what Newguy was suggesting; some sort of hyperlinking of thoughts from one brain to another? Clicking on the hyperlink in a thought in one brain opens another brain with the hyperlinked thought active.

That's a great idea for those who really do want to keep various areas of activity in separate brains yet leverage the connections between datapoints.

cheers

Jim

(in the words of Freddy Mercury: One Brain, One Vision )
@200229:
TB8022 32bit
Java 32bit Version 8 Update 141

Testing 11.0.60.0

Firefox, Office 2013 Pro Plus 32bit
64bit Win10Pro
64bit Primary Laptop, 8GB RAM, Intel Core i7
64bit Secondary Laptop, 64GB RAM, Intel Xeon E3
Brain user since 1997
Quote
Subby
"To One Brain or To Multi Brain ?"
That is the question we will all have :-)

Sorry guys,
l feel a long post coming on as this is an important topic for Brain  users and Developers alike, i think anyways.

Why did we/I move to the brain.

1\ Data consolidation
(forget save file, find the folder and all slow means of saving. I am testing keeping  everything in one brain. Big benefit of one data file for backup and portability)

2\ Data Visualization
3\ Data Completeness
4\ Speed of finding files by search or visual reminders
5\ Speed of entering data with thought creation
.... just to name a few, there are many other benefits ...

Newguy's comment l believe would be ideal.
A Master Brain if you will that can be segmented into your smaller/topical brains.

Thus have the ability to search across all data. Search the Master Brain or in the search feature have a selection for which brain to search/select, the master or another.This gives the ability to segment your data/brains... This may also need a button in the properties tab near the label tab for which Brain to associate the thought with. This would default to the current brain your working in if you did not select which brain to place the thought in, for speedy entry.

This would allow access to all data from one interface/Brain but to segment  brains. Also no double entering of contacts or other data, hopefully at least...

So how to do that?
For now l have been testing the Tag/Label/Type features with reports but this is a bit taxing. I cant wait to see a better segmentation method :-)

For the developers note....
B4 the Personal Brain I used a program called Time and Chaos of which you may be aware of? Time & Chaos has a rather interesting database design which allows u to transfer data from one database to another, like moving just one thought from one brain to another. You could keep a master file and move project files/thoughts out to a project file/brain but it was not visually efficient like the Brain.

I feel the Brain is the shell (well it's past the shell stage now) for a superior tool for all computer users. More so than any other available that l am aware of. Thanks for putting in development hours into this worthy software. I look forward to a merge/split feature integration as soon as possible.

Subiaco.

Quote
MrFreePress
I think the perfect answer to this quiestion would be a single brain with sections that detatch and reattach or perhaps a better terminology-Dock and Undock. Portability is the function that most of us are looking for.  A 160GB drive is fantastic if you have no place to go, but what about using an undock function to take a 4GB chuck of your brain with you on a USB Key Chain?

Example:
  • Master Brain USB Key
    • Work brain on USB you take to work to use & bring home to dock/uplink to master.
    • Personal brain on USB you take on your 30 day hiking trip.
    • Brain Core that keeps your most useful info handy.
      • IDs
      • PWs
      • Web Account links
      • Software links
      • Current Documents
      • Calendar
    • Act as a File Index for FolderShare.com, iFolder or other File Sync application.
      • I P2P mirror directories on multiple computers though each directory is stored on a different HDD depending on the PC I use.
        • F: on Home PC /Docs/
        • S: on Office PC /Docs/
        • E: on Notebook PC /Docs/
      • I don't need to duplicate the large directory contents(Gigs of files), just need PB interface to access the same SyncFiles regardless of the PC I access them from.
        • (I envision this capability world wide via internet drives one day.)
  • Something as portable as a PDA but with the proliferation of PCs in our daily life, we simply plugin to the nearest PC and chronicle our day(journal) or cache our random thoughts and file in our Master Brain at the end of the day/week/month.
    • Of course, a palm PDA app that links/syncs with master would keep me going.
What do you you think?  Am I on to something here or is this a pipe dream?
 
Quote
Spacenexus
Some great thoughts there. I've found over time that keeping data and files together systematically has really helped. So i keep my heavy brain in a jar (Igor) and now very often use the following with my 3G connected phone to access full PB from my pocket.

http://forums.thebrain.com/tool/post/thebrain/vpost?id=2085773

Quote:

Of course, a palm PDA app that links/syncs with master would keep me going.


I think this might be a solution to that!

cheers

Jim

@200229:
TB8022 32bit
Java 32bit Version 8 Update 141

Testing 11.0.60.0

Firefox, Office 2013 Pro Plus 32bit
64bit Win10Pro
64bit Primary Laptop, 8GB RAM, Intel Core i7
64bit Secondary Laptop, 64GB RAM, Intel Xeon E3
Brain user since 1997
Quote
mousebrain
Perhaps brain linking should be called telepathy...

I'm currently trying to share my brain with others, to get a hive brain working.

Quote
lerone
I just came across this discussion which seems to have rested since half a year without concrete results. but like Spacenexus I think there are some great ideas here, and I would be interested in a follow up.

to add to the larger frame discussion: I personally would use different brains just because depending on context and intent I will need different meta-structure for different info-samples. still I think one of the bigbig points about PB is, to put as much information into one context as possible.

as this thread is about great sketches (up to telepathy ), I would like to re-stress the main two practical ideas, as they seem to be implementable by the PB-team, if they share the view of this subgroup:
1) particular links between brains ("particular" as the different Brain Buttons are kind of "super links")
2) global search across brains

... I think both are as envisioning as practically feasible (only guessing here as a non-programmer).
– personally I would think the "global search" could be more helpful, but this is linked back to my understanding that singled out thoughts (or thought-complexes) still retain some of their informational value only through context, that is the particular meta-structure of the brain/environment they are in); but probably this is aquestion of apllied style...

so I would second both ideas. in the hope they are really workable and stand a chance of realization.

... I leave out the questions on telepathy and lobotomization, as I think they are for specialists of another sort...

Quote
lerone
as at the moment I am thinking about the effective and consitent use of link relations in PB as information structure, i.e. information to be used beyond the visual linking, I just had the following thought related to the one-many-brain question.
– it actually is an idea to the effect that it might provide a model for using many brains in one.

the idea: if links could be used as filter (or more precisely: if actual links can be used as information used by a filter), then users could set up "meta-thoughts" that bescribe a subset of the brain – a "sub-brain".
so you could define a brain "brainA" within a brain. and then a search- or display-filter could be chosen, that filters out only thoughts that are (directly/indirectly?) linked to that "meta-thought". to the effect that you would only see and interact with the region "brainA" of your brain (which in fact is nothing but a sub-set of all contained thoughts).

this way you could just surf the structure of the sub-brain as long as that filter is on. in difference to setting up a seperate brain, this would have some advantages:
– you retain the extra structure of the thoughts, i.e. their links outside the "sub-brain" which in fact is only a region of the larger brain
– you possibly save a lot of work of doubling thoughts in other brains
– you could still search the whole brain at once of you want more context
- ... possibly some other advantages.

(this would also be a possbile solution for other issues, like the request to differntiate between "global" and "local" thoughts – see here)

the pre-condition for this would of course be, that PB is becoming able to use its own primary link-structure as global information for other operations like search, filter, display.

... just a thought.
Quote
Darkstar
I've long thought that Personal Brain needed "Views"--- so you could thoughts in your brain as to belong to any number of views. This would allow you to do exactly what you are talking about, lerone.

I use multiple brains--- dedicated brains for large projects, as well as brains for each machine I use (because each machine has its own disk layout). If I had "views", I could define a view for each MACHINE, and share the common thoughts between machines (the web sites for my tools). That would be nice. Plus, projects, big and small, could have views built for what mode the project is in (development, maintenance, etc) and what the hot items or items to track, shared customer information between projects, etc.

Ah--- the perfect world. If Personal Brain 5 has that, I'll be plonking down for a license upgrade for sure.
-Darkstar
Quote
philholden
I should think the solution to most needs is to allow both single 'omnipresent' brains (which is of course allowed - limited only by disk space) AND connected brains.
A thought could therefore contain within it a key which (like a gene) which shows it's origin.
The creator of a thought could then allow a thought (with its gene) to be implanted in another brain. By default, this link would NOT allow the owner or use of one to explore the other.
Of course, if you were the owner of both brains you would probably want to easily move (via the link) between brains. However, as soon as one or other brain was 'published' these marked thoughts would cease to be (publically available) links.
Does this make sense?

Quote

Newsletter Signup  Newsletter        Visit TheBrain Blog   Blog       Follow us on Twitter   Twitter       Like Us on Facebook   Facebook         Watch Us on Youtube  YouTube       

TheBrain Mind Map & Mindmapping Software     Download TheBrain Mind Mapping Software